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last updated at 2001-08-08 21:36
URI Quality Assurance Bounty
DanC_: if you've got the test cases from the RFC hooked up to an implementation in such a way as to demonstrate that it conforms, you win the 1000 points.
DanC_: see also: notes on URI implementations
AaronSw: Aaron claims victory -- see message to uri@w3.org, www-qa@w3.org
AaronSw: Python fails the test suite
AaronSw: Python fails four of the tests, all essentially the same issue: treating '?y' and ';y' as special, instead of as just regular path components
DanC_: I can't access Aaron's stuff to evaluate the claim just yet.
AaronSw: It's now available
DanC_: 1000 points are tentatively awarded to Aaron. But I'd like to actually run the thing on my desktop.
 
sbp: Able to convert between a range of formats, and perform simple functions such as counting the number of triples, and simple filtering and inferences etc.
sbp: Many thanks to Aaron Swartz for building the SURF handler and NTriples parser
sbp: A tentative pre-release... there are still some bugs, and feedback/testing is most welcome
DanC_: implements an extreme position on the uri-substructure issue
DanC_: I agree with this extreme position, btw.
 
danja: BBC Online
danja: there's a download (Perl script?)
 
 
danbri: I previously blogged an article on this, but it points to the old (and seemingly offline) home of this code at actzero.com
danbri: See also O'Reilly article on SOAP in Python.
danbri: it worked for me: see experimental SOAP rdf query client
 
danbri: See also DV's concerns about the Semantic Web.
dajobe: I used his iedas for the rdf formats I wrote behind http://www.mirror.ac.uk/
dajobe: I guess I should dig them out...
danbri: Note that my initial draft fix doesn't do anything too radical; other changes might be useful (see notes).
danbri: Also I've not checked with sirpac etc yet cos the server's down.
AaronSw: However it does pass CARA which is just as good (if not better)
dajobe: From my UK Mirror service work on RDF - Item Description Format and Mirror Description Format
dajobe: probably should have checked that was still correct RDF... seems OK
 
danbri: The JXUL project is reimplementing the Mozilla XUL UI and data-binding system in Java
danbri: The website doesn't have that much info yet, though allegedly there's running code.
danbri: My initial reaction was "Wow, the speed of Java and Mozilla combined..."
look: Java Swing + XUL -- now with twice the slowness of traditional UIs!
danbri: That said, XUL offers some interesting mechanisms for using RDF data in UI widgets, so I'm curious. The XUL Templates stuff is really just a simple RDF query language.
danbri: As this matures, might be worth pointing them at Jena, Inkling etc...
danbri: To make up for my sceptical comments, here's a contribution I made earlier: Mozilla RDF APIs in Java, autogenerated April 2000, likely out of date, but hey...
danbri: ...the Mozilla XP-COM IDL -to- Java conversion was done with the utility 'xpidl'
danbri: Nearby, a XUL book promises a chapter on RDF and XUL templates with downloadable code.
 
em: online section of 'Learning XML (Guide to) Creating Self-Describing Data' which helps explain namespaces
 
DanC_: Learning XML (Guide to) Creating Self-Describing Data
DanC_: by Erik T. Ray January 2001
AaronSw: Namespaces
DanC_: a book I got in a pile sent courtesy of the publisher, O'Reilly
DanC_: unlike most XML books, it treats namespaces early on, and leaves DTDs to a later chapter... which chapter also discusses XML Schemas
look: SHOW
 
libby: |Graham klyne's photos from sebastopol, stanford and IETF meeting in london
libby: uploaded from the lobby of the hilton at Edgeware rfd in london!
libby: libby loves wireless
DanC_: Figure 2.11. Qualifying an element's namespace with prefixes is a pretty succinct explanation of namespaces
DanC_: overall, I like the relative emphasis of varous technologies. It covers XML+CSS early on.
DanC_: later in the book is a treatment of XSLT that looks like enough to get a working knowledge
 
danbri: "On 2001-08-07 I spent the afternoon at the Boston Museum of Science, learning about their Talking Signs installation. It's an infra-red based navigation system, and has great potential for facilitating position-based Semantic Web services. By providing uniquely identifiable anchor points in the real world, we can extend the notion of "Web annotations" into physical territory: museums, restaurants, bus stations...
danbri: "I plan to use the photos from yesterday to prototype an RDF-based that mixes some of the RDFWeb ideas with Talking Signs identifiers.
 
 
AaronSw: By Luke Francl
 
tav: I Scientific American: Feature Article: The Semantic Web: May 2001
bijan: A much chumped item, I believe :)
tav: just demonstrating the chump ;p
 
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