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last updated at 2002-03-30 21:48
 
libby: by Ronald Bourret again. looks even more useful
 
libby: a huge document. looks useful
 
dmiles: every object is publicly accessable from Telnet so the language of an Agent does not have to be Java
dmiles: Still in coding process of giving a Damlization of itself
 
sandro: Here's the semantic web architecture document your mother can read, but with real meat.
sbp: It's interesting for an introduction to the Semantic Web to not once use the string "RDF"
sbp: But this is a good introduction, nontheless. It would make a good start to a larger article, perhaps
sandro: I was going for 100% buzzword free. :-)
AaronSw: Nice job, sandro. I like it a lot.
sandro: This issue I was really after was the time variation one. I'm still pretty iffy about it. I think signed & dated assertions is the right thing, with some default practice of you assume things are as you last heard they were (give or take rules you learned about how they were going to change).
 
RDF 2.0: Webized KIF?
AaronSw: KIF specs: dpans, KIF v3, and the (mythical?) ISO KIF
AaronSw: Attempts: KIF as an RDF Schema, KIF in XML, A modest proposal for extending N3 superceded by Encoding Logic in RDF/DAML (PS, PDF)
AaronSw: WG Dream Team: Pat Hayes, Dan Connolly, Bijan Parsia, Drew McDermott with AaronSw, dmiles, sandro, sbp
sbp: Also "'KIF' in RDF" at the bottom of RDF Abstract Syntax, by J. Borden, P. Hayes, and D. McDermott
sbp: """The W3C basic standard is RDF, which is a good start, but nowhere near expressive enough. The best starting-point for such a content language is something like simple version of KIF, though with an XML-style syntax instead of KIF's now archaic (though still elegant) LISP-based format.""" - Pat Hayes, Catching The Dreams
sandro: Sounds nice, but.... Worse is Better
sandro: RDF1 slacks off on completeness, keeping itself simpler. That's the classic tradeoff.
AaronSw: But that's what profiles are for! We'll retain the RDF 1.0 profile, of course.
sandro: Yeah, that's cool. Another problem is that academics may have trouble getting funded (or personally motivated) to join WGs. It gets complicated.
 
AaronSw: Recently redesigned, now has lots of interesting content
AaronSw: they've a SW2002 paper
AaronSw: ick, lots of SOAP
AaronSw: "TAP currently uses directed labeled graphs (i.e., RDF without containers or reification) as its data model (whenever we say "RDF", we mean RDF without containers or reification)."
AaronSw: "The TAP KB is a shallow but broad knowledge base containing basic lexical and taxonomic information about a wide range of popular objects. Our goal is bootstrap the Global Knowledge Base by providing a comprehensive source of basic information about popular objects."
 
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